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I have found that reading about historical leadership about people like Alexander the great or George Washington are very, very helpful!

Great Blog!

Hello Steve,

Excellent! Insightful! What a great post!
Thank you, for sharing such an informative and useful message.

Manchild

Hi, Manchild,

Wonderful to see you back and your gracious comment is much appreciated.

I like your points at the end of the post. Of course, that is only the starting point. The next thing to ask is how you can accomplish each point.

1. For self awareness, perhaps a personality profile (such as Myers-Briggs) will help a manager understand himself better.
2. To gain the ability to manage his tendencies with his employees, he will need to understand their personalities also. Either ne heeds to be good at reading people, or perhaps his employees can complete a personality profile test also.
3 thru 5. This requires a structured procedure in place, such as a true 360 review process, with appropriate consequences.

Anyway, I think this illustrates why the best managers are 'people-persons'.

Hi, Scott,

Good point about the need for ways to build awareness of self and others, and learn to effectively manage both.

I can't think of any successful leader I've worked with over the years who has not used one or more of the tools you mentioned--or similar ones--to become more effective.

What makes those tools effective is using them as a starting point for a conversation about preferences, strengths, and weaknesses, and how best to use those characteristics in the service of the organization and each other.

Thanks for stopping by, Scott, and I look forward to your insights and suggestions in the future.

As Steve rightly points out, a good deal of this is situational and task specific. That's true in growth situations. As people become more adept at specific tasks/assignments they can make more and more of the basic decisions about what to do. However, in disciplinary situations, where you've determined that someone working for you has the ability and resources to do a job and they don't, you tend to take control away as the worker proves unwilling to do the work correctly. There's a diagram I use to illustrate this. In general, though, as people grow in ability and demonstrate willingness to pitch in (we sometimes call this engagement) we give them more and more control. As they present and unwillingness to pitch in and work effectively we take away their control.

Wally,

I want to offer a counterpoint to your post. Managers must remember that not everyone wants or needs control (or not as much control as the manager thinks they want). Not everyone wants to 'grow' the way that managers think they should grow. That is why it is important to understand your employees personalities.

I hope I'm not reading too much into your post. It's only that this is a very personal topic for me. I don't like a lot of responsibility. I don't like to be "in charge". And I'm content with the limitations that places on my salary and career growth. Many times in my career I have struggled with the tendency for managers to give me more 'control' than I could handle (or perhaps just more than I wanted), simply because I'm good at my very specific job duties.

So it's better to know your people's goals and not force them to 'grow' in areas they don't aspire to, than it is to take away their control because they didn't live up to your expectations.

Hi Scott,

Thanks to your post, I get to clarify again. I don't think you're "reading too much into it." Instead I think you're telling me I need to clarify something.

When I talk about "growth" I mean growth in the the ability to do the six or seven key tasks that make up any job. It's not career growth or anything like that. That should be up to the individual.

When I talk about "control," I mean control of the basic decisions about how the work should be done. I define four control choices for working with subordinates. You choose among them based on the person's ability to do a task and his or her willingness to do it.

The art of supervision is giving you as much control as you both want and can handle and then dealing with you in a way that's comfortable for you.

Thanks for the link and for the great takeoff on this topic Steve. It was fun to read while traveling in Ireland and it was well received there too! Loved your tools.

Scott makes a great case for hearing from folks at work - and the challenge is to create the communication skills and good tone to let managers know what targets we have in mind. That would help leaders to know who wants what job and to honor people like Scott's wishes.

Tone and communication are often under-rated as top tools for gaining the kind of understanding called for so well in your post and Scotts:-) Great discussion! I've learned from points and counter-points! Thanks!

Ellen, Scott, and Wally,

Wow. This is what a conversation is all about: I'm not even here and it's going strong!(Well, now I'm back).

One of the things that I'm finding fascinating is the impact of the word "assertiveness." It led to different meanings, different descriptions of leader style, and different tools for gaining understanding in conversations.

Scott, your situation is not an easy one. It sounds as if you are very clear on your abilities as well as your desire to be a solid individual contributor. I hope that your employer will finally recognize and honor those. All of our organizations need clear-minded individuals whose goals don't include "climbing the corporate ladder" but, instead, focus on how to provide outstanding competency in a particular discipline.


Hello Steve:
Thank you so much for the link. I enjoyed your post. Your 5 no nonsense pointers speak to Emotional Intelligence. As you say, an effective leader uses his/her self awareness to constantly check whether his/her preferred style is actually effective and seeks to adjust it accordingly when necessary.
Having lived and worked in the UK, I can relate to your observations about the relatively conversational approach taken in that country, compared with the US where there is a great interest in measurement. Management is part art, part science. An obsession with measurement can stifle initiative. One last idea on situational leadership, as well as the person to person level, where one adjusts one's approach to the particular individual (a la the One Minute Manager), there is also a macro level, where one leads according to the organisational situation, without considering the needs, preferences and styles of particular individuals, for example in an organisational crisis or turnaround.


Hi, Galba, and thanks for stopping by and adding another dimension to the conversation. The immediate and pressing needs of an organization are factors that sometimes get lost in the focus on long-term development.

Hmmm. Sounds as if we should follow through on this with a post :-)

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