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Robyn

Hi Jim, I was very interested in what Joe K. said. In many respects many folks don't take ideas learned in MBA courses or books and test them out in real life to see how they really work. True learning is about doing. If folks just read and think about the ideas only in the context of a course or don't remove them from the bookshelf to test them, they more or less stand still as Joe K. suggests.

On the other hand when you try out a new tactic and it doesn't go just the way the prof or the author suggested, then why not do some tweaking of your own? Here's where the real leadership learning takes place... in the problem solving to find out what works well for you.

I learn from many leaders, in fact I enjoy learning from diverse leaders because they approach things so differently. Just this evening I was in a meeting and a regional manager of a large insurance company made several suggestions about organizing leaders in ways I had not considered.

Guess that's why I need Joe K., yourself, book authors and so many others. I have so much to learn on this journey!

And thanks so much for the reference to my post on brain myths that hold many folks back.

Steve Roesler

Hi, Robyn,

The more I listened to Joe talk about his life, the more I realized that he used just about every learning tool and technique known to humanity. And he continues to focus on learning every day.

Your" brain myths" post jumped into mind because of all of the myths that he discussed as a result of constant, hands-on learning. I also think he's a great example of multiple intelligences. Now I wish we had videotaped a lot of the sessions on making changes that he did with his organization. It wouldn't have been appropriate, but would have been a terrific tool for our own learning.

Keep posting!

Karin H.

Hi Steve

Normally I don't comment when I just totally agree with a post - and therefore have nothing to add, but this time I just couldn't 'leave' it!
I recognise many 'self-learned' experiences in the interview with Joe K - specially number 2 rings a definite bell! - and am so looking forward to the book!

Robyn, hadn't seen your post yet, so thanks for that too Steve, great 'connection'

Karin H. (Keep It Simple Sweetheart, specially in business)

Steve Roesler

Glad that it struck a chord with you, Karin. And do check out Robyn's article.

BTW: Welcome back. Hope that weekend away was refreshing!

Karin H.

Hi Steve

Refreshing? Yes and no ;-)
(Eventually we turned it into a 'work-holiday': fitting a floor and scribbling down new thoughts on our visions-purpose-mission ;-))

Karin H.

Steve Roesler

Karin,

Did you scribble your visions-purpose-mission on the newly fitted floor?

I'm trying to get a sense of your working style;-)

Karin H.

Hi Steve

;-) don't think my better half and his fitting nephew would have approved of that:
http://www.thekissbusiness.co.uk/2007/09/ever-wondered-w.html

As soon as they had finished one area of the whole room, placed the dining table back I took out my notebook (my faithful companion where ever I go/are) and started my scribbles.
(And then I always have to hurry to copy scribbles into a word-document before I can't read my own scribbles any more)

Does this make it a bit clearer/simpler ;-)

Karin H.

Steve Roesler

Perfectly clear now, Karin.

It also sounds as if you were the supervisor :-)

Karin H.

Hmm, no comment ;-)

Karin H.

Scott McArthur

This is interesting and a theme I have faced a few times. I like what Google call it - "Leadershape Development".

Steve Roesler

Hi, Scott,

I didn't know about the Google phrase. It's not only catchy but says a lot.

Now I have a little more online investigation to do;-)

Thanks for stopping by and leaving the tip!

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