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Karin H.

Hi Steve

Straight from the heart! Fully agree with this attitude, statement and principle, so nothing really to add.

Only perhaps that you should tell your business friend to find his 40% growth in happy clients and employees. That's a growth that will keep its value (and the jobs on board)

Karin H. (Keep It Simple Sweetheart, specially in business)

Steve Roesler

Good morning (oops, afternoon) Karin

Well, it is from the heart. But not without prompting from experience and observation based in fact.

As for my friend, it's a fascinating situation in a way. His company is performing for its customers as well as ever. However, the customer base has been impacted by new regulations not of their choosing. As a result of that--and not the performance of the employees--the numbers will drop a bit. My friend's fear is that the numbers may be all that is needed to do something hasty.

Fortunately, he's the kind of guy who will remain joyous and positive about life regardless of the response of the organization to the circumstances. This could be an interesting and useful study--am going to follow it to see what we might learn from the company's response.

Hopefully they'll Keep It Simple and not panic. . .

Karin H.

Hi Steve

Miss read your story, thought your friend was the boss, oops.
So yes I now understand his worry - 'lack of influence'?

Hope things turn out well for him (and the company of course), would be a pity that change in regulations would stop the company changing its way to somehow benefit from those same changes. Every 'threat' is an opportunity too (somewhere).

Karin H.

Steve Roesler

That's a point well-taken, Karin.

I'll pass along the fact that he should be looking for the opportunity in the situation.

Wally Bock

There are several issues circling around this one. One is whether I, as an individual shareholder, have ownership in any meaningful sense.

Another issue is the corrosive pressure to continue to grow at rates that are historically unsustainable. Pressure to "make the numbers" often leads to making up the numbers as Warren Buffett has noted.

Another is what voice or vote stakeholders other than shareholders should have and those stakeholders might be. I can make a case for employees as stakeholders, but the idea of the "community" or the "environment" as stakeholders seems hard to sustain.

robert edward cenek

I more vividly recall the push for quarterly results occurring during the takeover craze of the mid-80's. I was with General Mills at the time, and our CEO, Bruce Atwater, would continually comment that underperformance was the best invitation for a dark knight (aka hostile takeover). It also seemed to be an era that ultimately became known as the "Me" decade. Our societal began to undergo fundamental changes in what was considered important. Most especially, greed and the "race to keep up with the Jones" became a paramount preoccupation for many.

My sense is that the quarterly race is here for sometime, primarily because corporate (and Wall Street) behavior is nothing more than a manifestation of societal behavior and mores - and I don't expect any major shifts anytime soon!!

More importantly, the issue now is a global issue. Emerging economies (including China, Russia and India) will get to experience what we have since 1929!!

robert edward cenek
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Steve Roesler

Wally,

Your mention of the Warren Buffet quote is in great part what prompted the post.

In a number of higher-level meetings over the past few years, I've seen a lot of distorted numbers created in order to make the numbers. Like anything else built on sand, what started off as a sand castle ended up as a puddle of mud.

The financial consequences did not, however, so much as touch those who perpetrated the offense; they rode off into the sunset with 7 figures. Those left behind paid the price.

Steve Roesler

Hi, Bob,

Indeed, the '80s seemed to be the starting point for all of this. And the fear of takeover still looms large in many boardrooms.

Your mention of corporate/Wall Street behavior reflecting societal mores prompts the chicken and egg question: Did the societal mores result from the corporate greed of the mid-'80s or vice versa?

Indeed, I don't see a change on the horizon, either. But, being a visual thinker, I'm getting a heck of a picture imagining those countries experiencing 1929.

Reality can definitely dampen a temporal ideal. . .

Levy

Hi Steve,

First time that I've visited your work. I agree that there is a change taking place in the definition of firms purpose but my take on it is there are more than two options in contention. There are lots of firms that expand the definition to include other stakeholders - for some that even means society as a whole: social responsibility. http://www.forbes.com/leadership/citizenship/2008/01/25/davos-corporate-responsibility-lead-cx_pm_0125notes.html

I suspect that the more conversations like this one make the practice of short-term thinking known the more stakeholders demand to be heard and their interest taken seriously - the harder it becomes to stay a short term thinker.

The real question for me is how are organizations developing their strategies to engage, learn and master the social media to have it contribute to the long and short term interest of the firm? These are some of the questions that I am writing about at http://buscreate.blogspot.com - stop by let me hear from you.

Levy

Hi Steve,

First time that I've visited your work. I agree that there is a change taking place in the definition of firms purpose but my take on it is there are more than two options in contention. There are lots of firms that expand the definition to include other stakeholders - for some that even means society as a whole: social responsibility. http://www.forbes.com/leadership/citizenship/2008/01/25/davos-corporate-responsibility-lead-cx_pm_0125notes.html

I suspect that the more conversations like this one make the practice of short-term thinking known the more stakeholders demand to be heard and their interest taken seriously - the harder it becomes to stay a short term thinker.

The real question for me is how are organizations developing their strategies to engage, learn and master the social media to have it contribute to the long and short term interest of the firm? These are some of the questions that I am writing about at http://buscreate.blogspot.com - stop by let me hear from you.

Steve Roesler

Hello, Levy,

Thanks for stopping in and offering up your URL as well; will certainly stop by.

Your take on the notion of "more conversations like this one bringing about a change in thinking" sounds right to me, and is probably the hoped-for impact of the medium.

See you over at your place shortly. . .

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