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Steve Woodruff

Someone that is wise (intelligence + humility) will tend to seek out what is the best course. Someone that is merely full of grey matter and self (intelligence + pride) will seek out the course that inflates his/her ego. Usually, it doesn't take long to discern the difference...

Steve Roesler

Hey, Steve, thanks for stopping by and adding a nugget.

The humility/pride dichotomy has always served as a gauge for me as well and I think would be useful to people as a tool for discernment if they could begin watching others' decision processes through that lens.

Here's a question:

We have the same types of clients. When it comes to management talent and upward mobility, are you seeing any change in who is getting rewarded/stalled on this dimension? That is, are more organizations paying attention to the toxic effects of the pride factor or are they still saying, 'Who cares, (s)he gets results'"

Wally Bock

I love the final quote and I've already shared it with several people. I agree with the idea that the humility/pride dichotomy leads to consider character issues.

But I disagree with the idea what humility or pride have any place in the definition of either knowledge or wisdom. They are part of a hierarchical continuum that includes data and information as well. In that continuum, wisdom is knowledge plus purpose. A person can be wise and not humble or humble but not wise.

Steve Roesler

Great, Wally. My legacy will now be: "He was the guy who said the tomato thing."

I'll have to ponder more on the pride/humility thing. Certainly they have nothing to do with knowledge. And, I like the Knowledge + Purpose characterization.

What I am considering is this: Is the exercise of knowledge with purpose experienced as "wise" when it is presented pridefully vs. with humility?

And even if not, does it make any difference?

I had hoped not to think any deep thoughts for the remainder of the weekend:-)

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