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Jefferson Sy

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Barbara Saunders

Interesting. I had my first management job this year. I suspected before I started that management would not be "my thing", and I was right. IC, it is! I think I just don't like to have to manage other people's consequences. Feel put upon half the time and guilty the rest!

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Jo

@ Barbara, I like your pithy expression - manage other people's consequences! Did you mean consequences for them or consequences of their behaviour?

I agree Steve, so many job descriptions are woeful. They are usually a proverbial kitchen sink and sadly, I suspect, written because someone told someone to write one. The content is there mainly to cover rearends.

I like the schema because it relates to our sense of our relationship with others (though not to competence of course).

The issue I think comes down to the way big firms are structured. Stable firms producing order need the last category. Then they need planners as 'staff' who might be line in something like project management/large civil engineering works. And then we need entrepreneurs. In the past, business tried to move into 'stable' territory; so the last category was exalted.

The new 'firms' springing up around global networks are going to be less managed. In any one project, leadership will move around as the situation demands. What large firms called individual contribution may become more highly valued as these people connect the 'managerial' types.

An individual contributor who knows which 'manager' is relevant to the moment becomes a leader in his or her own right.

It is possible that the days when managers are paid a premium for their skills may be over.


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Karin H.

Hi Steve

Reading the three management talents made me think of a 'Triumvirate' (ah, no spell checker red line, so right in one ;-))
If you have a management team that covers all three, the sky's the limit. Best example of a successful triumvirate I can come up with: Captain Kirk, Mr Spock and Dr 'Bones' McCoy - and don't tell me off for being a fantasist.

Perhaps management job description should look more into fiction?

Karin H. (Keep It Simple Sweetheart, specially in business).

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JetJaguar

In Canada, there are TWO managerial talents, and almost all managers have both of them: Knowledge of hockey, and profanity.

Wally Bock

I like Barbara's phrasing a lot. When I help people decide if they want to have a "boss's" job, one of the questions I ask is: "Are you comfortable having your evaluations depend on the performance and behavior of others?"

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Steve Roesler

Barbara,

I like how you characterized that--haven't seen in put quite that way before and it sure rings true.

The daily management of other people is about as challenging as business life can get; I wish you all the best.

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Steve Roesler

Jo,

You've raised an issue that describes something I've been sensing for quite some time now...the traditional role of manager. The demise of career longevity and stability at any one organization plus the notion of "project" vs. "career" leads to a new kind of "manager" and how the role is played.

My hunch is that, while "getting results through others" will remain the textbook definition, managers are--and will--orchestrate ever-changing groups and individuals.

It will be fascinating to watch the metamorphosis. . .

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Steve Roesler

Karin,

I think you should add another eBook to your offerings: "Management By Trekkie."

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Steve Roesler

Yo, Jet,

Love it.

You've got me thinking that we should do a contest or start a list of " Special Management Talents By Nationality".

Not a bad idea, eh?

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Steve Roesler

Wally,

That's one heck of a pithy question and strikes at the heart of the decision.

I'm curious: What percentage of potential managers are somewhat taken aback by the reality of that?

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Karin H.

Nah, too late.
Already done by...... Captain Jean-Luc Picard ;-)

Karin H

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Steve Roesler

Karin, perhaps "Part II: Keep It Startrek Simple" would add even more to your audience. . .

Wally Bock

Thanks for the kind words, Steve. The answer to your question is that north of 90 percent are taken aback by the question. The sad reason for that is that no one in their career to that point has laid out what exactly they will do if they become a boss.

FWIW, the other questions in that set are
Are you comfortable talking to people about their behavior and performance?
Are you willing to make a decision that will make some people upset?

And there's one other question I like to ask: "Do you like to help other people succeed?"


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